Made use of, but not mistreated. No cracks around outer edge or bell. Great heavy trip. It's generally a hand hammered cymbal ahead, and an AA series on bottom. Hand hammered bell, non "fantastic" surface. The "Paragon" marking has actually faded from the top of the cymbal, which I've read prevails with this cymbal. Sabian marking still on the bottom. It doesn't crash all that well, however if you're purchasing an 8 pound cymbal, you would not really expect it to. Would make a wonderful heavy rock trip.